Are you Engaged?

So I am going to be straight and to the point (not that I am otherwise at any given time!). There have been a lot of discussions around KE ratio. I am not going to link those discussion to clutter this post. People suddenly like it a lot! Excellent!! I am touched.

People also are critical to the effect and use of it. Nothing wrong with that. I designed it for curators; how you use it is up to you.

As I was reading some of those long discussion, what becomes clear is a point that KE only focus of earning and extraction. But hive is much more than that as a social network. What about engagement? Yeah sure! What about TARIFFS? Sorry, no no, let us not go there! What about plain vanilla ice cream? Yes, better.

Ah!! Finally a plot with data! I love a controversy between 'us' vs 'them'! How, timely!

When former US President George W Bush said:

"Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."

I remember cringing and think OMG, what world we started living now. How can a US president start a 'us' vs ''them' campaign? That is how you destroy a civilization! I see how naive I was back then!! I hated Bush at the time. What would I not do today to get him back, compared to the choice I have currently! Sigh. Sorry I digress again!

The Plot

The first time I heard about "engagement at hive" is from Asher. He used to run a thing called Engagement League. It was tedious data manipulation and lot of it was manual.

The Hive Engagement League
This league is not based around financial rewards and relates to engagement on the Hive blockchain.

It stopped on Jun 26, 2023. I requested Ash to stop it.

Anyways, the way the above plot is constructed in extremely simple. Naturally, and this word is important, people write post, and comment on posts (even replies sometimes!) at hive. Blockchain records that data and it can be pulled using a query at beebalanced.

https://beebalanced.streamlit.app/custom_queries_page

This returned be 4779 ACTIVE hive account over the last 6 months as per my definition. I don't care about account holding less than 10 HP for this discussion. I also don't care about accounts that post less than 10 or made less than 10 comments over last 6 months. They may be active, but they are not engaged.

Alright: the 4779 active hive accounts over the last 6 months looks like this below:

Comment Ratio (CR) = Number of Comments (E2) /Number of posts (D2)
Reply Ratio (RR) = Number of Replies (F2) /Number of posts (D2)
Engagement Ration (ER) = =((((E2-D2)*2)+F2)/D2)

What ER does, it simply normalize the comments to your post frequency.

For most humans, their CR and RR is the same or very close. How do I know this? If I plot CR against RR, it will be straight line going through (0,0), (50,50), (100,100) etc. You can see that in the blue dots. ER also has a near constant relationship with C/R Ratios. It is about 2.0. Because remember the factor of 2, I used in the ER formula, it is that. Of course, these are generalizations. If everything is constant for everyone there was not reason to make the plots.

If someone just posts and doesn't comment, as curation program account (it is totally okay to do that), the ER of that account will be zero.

According to this metric, let us take ocdb for example;

CR = 1.0
RR = 0.0
ER = 0.0

I want to repeat; for a curation program, this is a legitimate action.

List of Comment Spams

@ecoinstant wanted a list. A different list. He wanted a list of 'vote buyers', this is not that. This is just a list of top comment spams. I am not saying these spams get upvote or earn any money (sometimes they do) in all cases.

These are top commenting accounts at hive. Yes, there are some humans there in the top 25. However, you can identify the bots, some even says 'bot' in their names :)

hivebuzz's CR = 3044; Comment/day = 642.7
taskmaster4450le CR = 274; Comment/day = 400.7

Are they engaged? LOL. Shit NO! They are just comment bots. Feel free to DV (if there is any rewards) and mute them. I do not think these comments or auto-notification provides any value to the blockchain. This is obviously my opinion. If you feel otherwise, that is your opinion.

What is human behavior in terms of comments?

In order to understand human behaviors, I will need a few benchmarks. Here benchmark only means folks that I know do not comment by using any automation. I know that I do not use any automation for posting and commenting. I personally know several others who doesn't. I am going to just choose people, who I know won't mind that I chose them non-randomly :)

In addition I will also provide some range and averages of all 4779 active users.

Parameter	CR	RR	ER	Comments/day
Min	1.0	0.0	0.0	0.1
Average	8.2	6.9	21.3	3.1
Max	3044.2	3043.1	9129.6	642.7

Here is the plot of us "magnificent seven"! :) Give us a break, okay! Got to have some fun!

So, we can see that we vary widely in terms of our commenting prowess, but we are all active hive users and we are all human. So I am going to say, it is not easy to do 1300 comments in 6 months! It is even harder to do 4200 comments in 6 months! Galen is superhuman to do 23 comments a day every day for 6 months! When you add, this is without any incentive, you may begin to appreciate the effort. I see bozz at 33.9 comments/day, melinda at 59.1 comments/day and wiseagent at 93.2/day. These are some of the highest numbers I have seen from some humans that I know as humans.

Why didn't I just use comments/day. For the superhumans their ER is lower because of post-normalization :) Giving them a bit of human distinction.

There you have it. I had to draw some boundaries. Mind you, these boundaries are fuzzy. Most natural processes are fuzzy. You decide, if you are them. Good luck :)