ValuePlan Discussion, Funding Startups, Games on Hive, etc. .:. Recap of Hive Humpday Hangout SE #10 (November 27, 2024)

Despite not creating the announcement post for the show, we did manage to run one last HumpDay (pardon, Wednesday🙂)... I had a bad migraine on Tuesday and I was unable to create the announcement post, but in the end, we had a nice turnout and a very deep discussion on different topics! As it was the last Wednesday of the month, we had the "freestyle" version of the #HHHLIVE show, where the participants picked up the topic... As you can see from the title, we had a few big ones!


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It is turning into a tradition that we begin the show with a smaller audience, and get up the steam as time passes by... We were only 4 in the first minutes, but shortly, when others joined, we were around 10 participants! Not bad for a show without the announcement post! Btw. there is no recording for this one, so if you want to participate in the live discussion, you will have to join us the next time!


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At the beginning of the show, I had small issues with my microphone as I changed the setup this time... Using my Bluetooth earbuds was more convenient for this "relaxed" format of the show, but I forgot to change my microphone to a desktop mic... Luckily, someone spotted the voice difference and the problem was solved! As a topic-breaker, I asked others how they liked the last show, where we had a special guest as it was in an "interview" format... I was pleased to hear that people liked it which means that we should do them more often! If you would like to have someone special as a guest (or you want to be a special guest!), please let me know in the comment section...

As we were talking about the last show, we dived into the talk about the Polish community, and some HiveFest memories, where @jza mentioned a brewing company (from Poland) that was presenting at HiveFest... And I have no idea about who he was talking about... If you know, I would like to learn about it!


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The next huge topic was ValuePlan... As it is a very huge one, we were jumping on and off talking about it... People shared their views, good and bad things... What could be improved, and similar... There were shared a few links during the show, so if you are interested in that topic, you can check them out too...
@dalz/hive-tokenomics-improvement-proposal-for-the-next-hardfork
@valued-customer/fixing-valueplan

As I said, we were moving through topics back and forth, but sharing some great information during that time... For example, @jza shared that @starkerz did a presentation in El Salvador recently, promoting HIVE to Bitcoiners... It's hard to sell something to BTC Maxis, but it was a good experience as HIVE could give some value as a storage blockchain!

I have no idea how we went back to funding apps and how to incentivize people to be more responsible with received funds from DHF, or ValuePlan... It is obvious that more reports about spending and transparency are needed... But on the other side, the biggest incentive should be to do things that will benefit the chain and the HIVE token... In the end, most of us are HivePower holders and we want the best for the token... I suppose that receiving funds as a "gift" and earning money by work are two different things... Those who earn money with their work, appreciate it more and act more responsibly...


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That was probably another door that opened a new discussion about funding apps and projects... Does it make sense to fund certain apps forever, or it would be better to fund new apps and help them out in developing new ideas... The "hot potato" was thrown at @achim03 who was on the mic to share his opinion about this... How to make Hive frontends self-sustainable? Do we have self-sustainable apps on HIVE?

Then we dived into some of the games on HIVE... Splinterlands was a perfect example of a self-sustainable game for a long time, but in the end, they had to be "saved" by the DHF... On the other side, we have some other games, such as GolemOverlord which is doing a great job, or @risingstargame which works great doing its own thing! Tokens are doing great compared with some others, and we have to mention that the "crypto" games sustainability isn't only an issue on HIVE, but other chains too!


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Another big topic was Hive-Engine tokens, how to manage tokens, how H-E works, what are the pros and cons of tokens on it... As @achim03 and I have some experience regarding that, we shared our way of doing things with our tokens, LEN and LENM, that we are running on the Hive-Engine, for our @liotes project...

We had a talk about token liquidity, printing/minting tokens, burning tokens... About the balance around liquidity, scalability talk, and of course, a business plan that every token owner should have before launching one!

At the end of the show, we had another big topic... Content value! How to measure it, and more importantly, how to monetize the content... There were some comments on how HIVE content is garbage and useless, how it doesn't have value at all... I strongly disagree with that... Do you think that FB or IG content is more valuable? Or endless discussion on X without any point or conclusion? I don't think so... HIVE has a problem with monetizing the content and we have to find the solution for that... Maybe if we find it, it could be a turning point in making the HIVE economy much stronger than it is.

Peakd's experiment with ads is a first step that will bring some "feedback" data... Maybe invest more work in SEO of HIVE frontends? What do you think? How can we monetize our content?


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We had 10 people in the show (including myself). I would like to thank, @achim03, @duskobgd, @foxkoit, @jza, @melinda010100, @mypathtofire, @palomap3, @quekery, and @sacra97! Thanks everyone for participating!!!


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Thank you, guys and girls, once again! As a sign of appreciation, I will send some LEN tokens to all participants of the live show! You can pair them with LENM tokens, add liquidity to the diesel pool, and earn rewards! If you want to learn more about the project behind it, check out the @liotes account or visit the Liotes website... Of course, if you are not interested in it, you can sell tokens on the Hive-Engine market...

To encourage more people to come on the mic, I have sent an additional 100 Ecency POINTS to people who shared their thoughts in voice with us (this time we had 3 participants in voice)! So POINTS are going to @jza and @achim03!

Special thanks goes to @melinda010100 and @good-karma for providing the space for the event!

Thank you for your time,
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Check out these links to the previous shows:

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32To Delegate HivePower or Not?Link
SE093Speak issues and Discussion, Gambling Apps on Hive, Taxes, etc.Link
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30How HIVE Changes LivesLink
29HiveFest9, Impressions by @ninaeatshere, @achim03, and othersLink
28How Do We Spend Our Crypto?Link
SE08The Gang is Back, Breaking the LimitsLink
SE07Ecency Waves, HivePower, Splinterlands, HiveFest, LPs, and more!Link
27How Hive Proposals Work?Link
26Content Creation ExperiencesLink
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25Why Did the Hive Price Drop?Link
24What Do We Expect From Hive and Crypto!Link
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22Helping Hive to ThriveLink
21Make Yourself Uncomfortable (on Hive!)Link
20First Excursions Out of the Comfort ZoneLink
SE04BuzzParty Impressions, Weekly Recap, BonfireLink
19Ways To Buy/Sell Hive!Link
SE03Foods, Crypto Research, Education, PredictionsLink
18Best Tools For Content CreationLink
17Consistency and Adding ValueLink
SE02After Show ShowLink
16CBRS Philanthropy Chat With @minigunner!Link
15Profit Taking PlanningLink
14Ecency/Hive Chat With @good-karma!Link
SE01Relaxed "Exclusive" SessionLink
13Writer's Block and How To Overcome ItLink
12Hive-Engine TokensLink
11Hive Guidelines for NewbiesLink
10NY Resolutions and Creating Hive GoalsLink
9How Was Your (HIVE) 2023?Link
8Presenta tu comunidad - ES/EN Show! - Part 2Link
7Present Your Community - Part 1Link
6How to Start on Hive?Link
5Do You Upvote Quality Posts?Link
4Genuine? Authentic? To be or not to be?Link
3Hive Power, HP Delegation, HivePUD...Link
2Hive Meetups, HiveFest, HiveBeeConLink
1Pilot Episode (Aired 2023-10-18) - The VisionLink


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